sweetcostarica: To skjoyner,
That's fine I love to hang Excalibur-ish swords on the basement walls of my
home in Ohio. But now I am in Alaska and I only endorse gear that works for
camping, hiking, and survival. The Condor failed my tests and my needs
because it's has a badly wide edge grind and it's just too heavy IMO.
Ahmad Nazir: Hi,
To be honest you need to improve your technique using those things,
you will will be more impress once you know or master it..
regards from Malaysia
Mihai Milan: I think with Condor it's more about quality control ( as it is with the
Bear Grylls Parang as we know). I have the Condor Bushlore (came razor
sharp with no need to reprofile) and the Bushcraft Parang (came hair
splitting sharp, sharper than the knife). I've handled a friend's Bear
Grylls Parang and found it to be very poorly made (for a parang not a
regular machete). Maybe it's also up to each person's personal experience
as well. Out of all my knives the Bushlore and the Parang are my main
blades when going out for longer trips. They're strong, durable (not made
of mystery steel like the bear grylls parang) and cheap so it's not
heartbreaking if I lose them or if something happens (but I really doubt
anything will). Weight is an issue though because I usually hike about 20
miles, but I like the motto: If its too heavy, get stronger.
TOYOTER0: Great review and comparison... the music is a bit loud to hear you @3:15.
Rawdog550: Those Condors need to be sharpened a bit befor using them and then they are
Dan Morera: Hey I was looking to your channel name, do you happen to be located at
Costa Rica? Where did you find those machetes here?
James Hart: I'm glad you said the BG Parang is only for light to medium use. The blad
is thin, but way to hard, not enough flex for a good "Machete" As for
getting the blade profile fixed. I have a guy who does that for me, for
less then ten dollars a blade. I have three Condor knives and I've had them
all reprofiled to a flat grind, much easier to keep sharp. I even had my BG
Parang, yes I have one, reprofiled giving it a much more durable edge. But
the BG Parang, I wont use on anything bigger around then say 3 inches. The
Confor on the other hand is built to chop your way through a jungle. But in
the end, use the right tool for the job. A small folding saw or small axe
is much better on larger pieces of wood.
ZADRIAN: Where did u find these in stock? Im guessing u pre ordered. I want one just
because im a fan of the parang mostly ... As far as chopping, my bolo blows
my bidor parang out of the water. Im guessing this would be similiar to the
bidor parangs? Thnx
sweetcostarica: About buying a Kukri I have tried many and recommend highly Tora Blades (I
have the most experience with them). But they are slighty hard to get right
now. They are taking pre-orders now. HI has some great traditional blades
in the KLVUK and Tamang Knives. There other Kukris (which they do sell alot
of) are export/tourist style. Those are too heavy for me and my family for
outdoors. But that's my opinion. Great Goloks can be found at Valiant Co.
The Survival Golok is a popular model. God Bless.
AlaskanFrontier1: well i mainly ment that for all the reasons you stated and the bold claim
that it will "out-dothe gerber parang" not saying i love the gerber parang
either but never using the tool im not going to nay say it
sean weir: Not trying to ruffle your feathers. Its just that every Condor blade I have
ever seen has had to have the edge reprofiled before it was any good. Once
the edge has been redone the blades Condor makes are borderline awesome.
Should a person have to reprofile an edge on a brand new knife I would say
no, but when you buy a Condor anything reprofiling the blade is
automatically assumed YMMV.
sean weir: So take a 50 dollar knife spend 10 more on it for reprofiling the edge and
you have a great knife that you won't feel bad about beating the snot out
of for 60 bucks. As far as the Parang itself goes I have never had one, and
I am considering it or a Kukri for my next chopping blade. Since I live in
an arid climate and the wood around here is tough I think the Kukri might
work better for my environment. Who knows I might get both because I like
sweetcostarica: I have not heard from you Oregonbushcrafter. I thought since you don't care
for Rocket Scientist Cliff Stamp's advice on big blades, how about
junglecrafty. In his video he anwsers: What is a Parang used for? What to
look for in a Parang? What's the best Parang? How to use a Parang? Please
watch YouTube video: The best parang ... ever? IMO this will help see where
I & others are saying about heavy, too wide bevels on Parangs. & if you can
always go traditional. If not get the closest thing.
sweetcostarica: Yes, in Anchorage. I am very happy to be here because of all the hiking and
camping opportunities Alaskans have. This is an outdoorsman's paradise.
Sounds like your living here too.
TheRunereaper .: You're spot on there Sweet. I have NO experience of traditionally made
parangs, I don't want to take the chance! Any sharp, heavy blade that I
swing must primarily be as safe as I can get it because I use them hard.
Swinging a machete in the trees all day is dangerous - even when there is
nothing wrong with the tool. So, full tang & known steel supply with
traceable heat treatment for me - not $5 bits of recycled, rusty old buses
with cheap, plastic handles that detach themselves after a while.
Mraussieadventurer: great video disappointed at the poor preformence If i do end up getting one
i'll have to spent Half an hour grinding it lol cheers
sweetcostarica: All good points. But I personally feel that these video's do help the
consumer learn what is out there to buy & what are some important points to
consider: - what are the specifics: i.e. hikers, campers, youth, etc. want
lightweight tools so that might rule out the Condor Bushcraft Parang (CBP).
- My comments like: "It has a very wide grind" might help a newbie know if
he has to spend more cash to sharpen it for real use. - As in this video I
always try to show what a real blade of the type is.
sweetcostarica: They used to say that about Japanese knives. Now Japan makes some of the
best mass produced knives in the world. Today, with technology & the
International Community no longer can we say: "I buy only American" or "El
Salvadore (or Malaysia) produces excellent Parangs.". American flags &
Levis are made in China. VWs are made in the USA & Mexico. Japanese cars
are made in Ohio. And on and on. In fact China & Taiwan are now making some
great knives. We should now look at quality & not nationality.
sweetcostarica: Exactamente (exactly).
phrankus2009: From here, it does not look like you put a proper edge on the Condor ... I
have seen several reviews where the Condor fared just fine. ... I would
recommend that you try the ONTARIO SP8 before you come to any conclusions.
sweetcostarica: I guess every one different. The problem with sharpening the
CondorBushcraft Parang is that it's blade is long & has extremely tough
steel. That tough steel is hard regrind as anyone who tried to regrind the
edge of the 1st Gen. Bushlores would know. So the consumer needs the Condor
to at less make this blade with a thinner bevel & as sharp as possible for
the buyer who isn't knowledgeable at doing regrinds or working with their
steel. The Village Parang is way too heavy for hiking/survival IMO.
sweetcostarica: That is a good thing of course. I wish every manufactures did this but I
see what you mean about the Gerber Bear Grylls Parang. I am worried by the
thinnish edge bevel. How long will that last? Only time can tell us this.
carpkai: Mr. Flowers, I have a Condor Bushcraft Parang, and I love it. I sanded the
black coating off the bade, and did a vinegar forced patina. I sharpened
the edge with a Smith's carbide sharpener. I wasn't thrilled with the nylon
sheath, but after spraying the blade with silicone, it slides in with ease.
I also have a Condor Bushlore, and after a little twealing, it is an
awesome knife also.
carpkai: These chopping tests, though entertaining and appreciated, are like pistol
accuracy tests. There are way too many variables to give them any weight
towards making a purchase decision.. I have a Condor Bushcraft Parang, that
I did putt a thinner edge on, and it's a chopping demon. I like Bear Grylls
show, but I thing his parang is for weeds, not wood. The first releases
were breaking at the handle. Watch Preparedmind101's video. That guy is a
big blade freak, and he loves his Condor B.P.
sweetcostarica: Your too late I sold that Condor Bushcraft Parang (CBP) on ebay.. You sound
very knowledgeable on the CBP above saying: "it (the Condor's wide blade)
was meant to be". Maybe you know something I don't or Cliff Stamp missed in
his YouTube commentary on the similar Condor Village Parang : "design by
picture vs design by performance" Please explain in detail the comment:
"being tired" made no sense? Since I was tired. I don't understand. And
please be specific. Thanks Paracorder for your help.
sweetcostarica: Oh, I see. The way you use your blades does sound like it is hard use & not
the way I use mine. Too bad you are missing out on some great Traditional
tools that are use differently from the way you do. Anyway I think you & I
are talking about different things as far as the Condor Bushcraft Parang
(CBP). This blade needs major re-profiling not simple sharping.This is an
unacceptable factory condition of the CBP (IMO). In my video I explain
this, I have told you twice so I'll end that topic here.
Joe Flowers: You are the first person that I've met that wasn't blown out of the water
by this parang, so I'm thinking that for some reason, you got one that
didn't have a thin edge. The edges are much thinner than the Bidors, in
retrospect. I'm going to arrange to make sure you get another one and see
if it is the same.
sweetcostarica: I wanted to like this one but it's short comings are too apparent. Yes, it
truly needs a regrind but I hear that about many of the big Condor blades.
A shame. Anyway, this one isn't a keeper.
sweetcostarica: Hi TheRunereaper. You said:"think you should start with a sharp blade &
sharpen with a shallower convex than factory supply". I agree 100% with you
assessment but as I explained Condor's steel is heated so well & is
extremely hard to re-bevel for anyone but pros w/the right equipment.
People, including myself will not buy this equipment & then take time
re-beveling that long blade. The cost would cover 2 or 3 tradition Parangs.
We agree the Axe is want logical people use for heavy duty jobs.
sweetcostarica: Oh, I usually spin my wood too for the best effect (check my other videos)
but I often test two knives against each other so I want to keep things
simple. If you like the heavier Condor Village Parang that's is a good
thing. If you have never tried a traditional blade you will be surprised at
how good they are in comparison to a western factory made Parang. It really
is something that will impress you.
carpkai: My Condor Bushcraft Parang is a beast. I did reprofile the edge on a 1x30
Harbor Freight belt sander.This is a great parang for processing wood. or
bushwacking in general.
sweetcostarica: Hey AlaskanFrontier1, I just want to correct Joe Flowers a little in that
the traditional Parang's main job is jungle chopping but it is also for
splitting, can do detailed work, debarks, & de limbs. It's a multi purpose
tool.. So besides the terribly wide grind on the Condor Bushcraft Parang
it's Achilles heel is it weight. At 24.40 (692 grams) this limits it as an
all round tool. IMO a belt axe would be more useful in that weight range.
So I agree with you, Joe made a bold clam here.
AlaskanFrontier1: yup im in the interior around fairbanks btw you should subscribe to me and
i have subbed you
Oregonbushcrafter: Cliff Stamp? The guy who got banned off of multiple forums due to being a
Busse nut and never being happy with any knife? Yes. Listen to him. I
watched the video. This isn't the bushcraft parang. I have both, I love
BOTH. The Bushcraft parang destroys the bear grylls parang HANDS DOWN. If
it doesn't, you don't know how to use it.
Robb Kaczor: I always enjoy your vids but this time I am a lil perplexed. I own the
Bushcraft Parang and it chops through lumber like crazy I would suggest
trying a different one and see if you get a different outcome. Not trying
argue with you but after owning one for myself I really wonder if something
was not kosher with yours.
sweetcostarica: "How much did you say those Chosera stones cost sir ?!?1! Ouch, I thought
so." I do see what you are saying TheRunereaper but a better, cheaper, and
I think more efficient method of going about our Bushcraft activates is to
do what the native people of Malaysia/Indonesia do today: (see part two)
sweetcostarica: Thanks for the tip. Working with sharp tools is always dangerous and you
pointed out a great example. Personally in realistic camping/hiking I use a
folding Silky saw to easily & untiringly cut through wood this thick and
hard. But I chopped though that large brand like that to demonstrate the
differences between these Parangs. Also, the wideness of that particular
Condor Bushcraft Parang contributed to that bounce back at 4.52. Thanks
again & have the best day The Sometests.
sweetcostarica: No problem, I see what you mean. I have some Condor small blades and am
going to try their machetes. Much of he Bear Grylls and Les Stroud stuff is
average, some real good but you are right their names are used to sell
things with and not really to get the best tool to the citizen. Have a
great day carpkai.
Paracorder: The comments you made, made no sense, all of those comments were good about
the condor except being tired. I'll gladly take that fully functioning
blade for $5 plus shipping if you don't like that type of blade, but it's
like that because it was meant to be.
Cliff Stamp: Handle looks decent, they usually don't do much with the blades though.
sweetcostarica: Thanks for commenting Joe Flowers. I like the design of your Condor
Bushcraft Parang. I also get the idea behind it. For me personally it's
just too heavy for camping & hiking for all members of the family. But does
split well. Traditional Parangs are lighter and handles can be large or
small. So how about a "Mini" Condor Bushcraft Parang?. That would be a
better Parang for those who have small hands & are weaker like teens and
grandpa, etc. Also it would be easier to carry than the full size.
sean weir: If you reprofile the edge on the Condor you might change your mind.
TheRunereaper .: My CBP arrived today and I found the handle to be an unpleasant surprise.
The blade shape and weight are great for what I want to do. It will flick
off hard green cherry wood up to 35mm in one hit. You're right about the
CVP being too heavy too carry about all day. There is definitely a
technique to develop. Aim to hit at 35 deg to the horizontal at the end -
not the middle of the blade . Use Chosera stones to sharpen, 400 and 800
are enough. They will put a smile on your face - promise :-)
TheRunereaper .: I really like the design of this parang. It doesn't arrive shaving sharp
but like all edged tools it will need sharpening anyway after a couple of
hours of useful work. I DO have a problem with one aspect of it - the
handle is wrong for me. It's NOT comfortable, too narrow with no palm swell
so allowing the parang to move in the hand. Got by, using gloves but my
bare hand slipped twice on the polyprop surface. Even a Martindale handle
is better than this! Wish now I'd bought the Village Parang.
sweetcostarica: Oh, I got it. In using the Condor & Gerber in my field test above I don't
see how another video that Joe says: "I feel once you find how to use it,
you will find that it outdoes everything the gerber parang wants to do." Am
I using the Parangs in the wrong way? My video shows the opposite of the
statement above from stock, factory grind Parangs. The only exception is
splitting & that where a heavy blade with a wide edge bevel should work
better. A Parang shouldn't just be a chopper (IMO).
sweetcostarica: You might be right but this is my first large Condor (I love my Bushlores).
So I have no gauge. My Condor Bushcraft Parang's (CBP) edge is the widest
of all my big blades not extremely just wider. This makes it "bounce off"
the wood instead of bite. It would be good to see if the normal CBP has a
thinner/better edge than the one I had. That would made it more useful and
save energy for sure.
sweetcostarica: Also TheRunereaper said: "I'd NEVER use a Malaysian made parang - not full
tang..." Not tying to tell you how to do bushcraft but I think you lack
experience with real traditional Parangs & are mostly concerned with the
toughness of the big knife's handle & steel. Just like HI Kukris with stick
tangs the Trad. Parang has a strong enough handle when used correctly, has
good 5160 steel, & great heat treat. It's light enough to carry/use all day
& easy to replace a hidden tangs handle in the bush.