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myairgunreviews: For some reason I am unable to post a reply to questions or comments posted on this review. Sorry

wtsig76: Thanks for the great vid. I was just wondering where I could get the o-ring seal for the breach seal. I'm impressed with the power of this thing so far. I'm just shooting some basic daisy and crosman pellets. I'm also wondering what you would suggest for hobby target shooting and occasional varmit. Will the cheepo pellets do the job? or is there a good lead pellet available? Also, are alloy pellets wortgh the hype? Everything seems to be about FPS when they market these guns. I just want accuracy and small game knock down power.

John Bain: When you were firing this gun, what pellet fit/seated best in it?

Ruben Perez: Do I have to do all those steps before shooting my rifle like you did? 

L. E. Young Jr.: A great review! Answers all my questions about my own experience with a Umarex Surge, I bought from Big Five Store. It explains why I was having so much trouble getting this gun to group less then eight inch pattern! Dido on the scope as well! It's cheep but functional. Clean the barrel, before firing the first time. It had so much assembly oil in it that it ran out the mussel and it still "exploded" on the first shot! And, don't use cheep pelts if you want any good performance.

herne777: Personally, I'd get the ruger air hawk. Scopes on $100 air rifles are junk across the board.

Dana Whitfield: SO if you can only have one would you have this rifle or the Crosman Optimus? I'm looking for a low price critter getter.

Milton Parker: I use Stoeger x-speed high velocity precision pellets 5.56 gr..there's something about the domed pellets that shoot the best...but seriously go on to amazon and buy these, they shoot accurate and very very hard..better and more impressive than anything I have used...lead free alloy...

Patrick Higdon: I've shot this one when I was visiting family in MO. We were shooting quarters (which almost went through at 25yds), and then moved on to dimes. The scope just needs to be zeroed properly and this thing is awesome. It is solid, and a great quality product. At 50yds it almost goes through a 50 gallon barrel (also observed). For the money this thing is a lot of fun so I bought one. Aside from that 22 ammo is really hard to find! I can buy pellets all day for cheap! So for plinking or small game get an air rifle!

Nathanael K: I just shot about twenty shots through mine for the first time today. So far it is excellent. The scope was able to be zeroed in at 10 yards with no problem with the pellets getting stacked close together freehanded with my unsteady hand. The breech seal in mine seems ok but I may get the shimm kit eventually. Definitely thinking about more umarex products in the future!

Jerry Kittle: so what diameter are those washers( Shimms) your useing

Thomas Garvey: I purchased one to help exterminate a rat we had in our neighborhood . First time I fired it at all , was a confirmed kill . Took it to the gun range this past weekend , dead on . Didn't need to do anything . The rat didn't have a chance . I love it and would recommend it highly . Even if it has some future issues .

Seiji Nishimatsu: I got this model (umarex I believe) from walmart for about $100+tax and shot plenty of rounds without issues. I shoot lead pointed pellets and through some research I believe it goes about 1000 fps (1200 with alloy pellets). My question was, since I have an interest in the Gamo Big Cat 1400, if I should return the Blackhawk and pay the extra $80 or so (total $180+tax) for the 1400, or if the Blackhawk is just as powerful/accurate as the 1400 with lead pellets (not PBA or alloy pellets). I appreciate your time in reading this and helping me out

James Roberson: The stock scope is horrible!

Dennis Lynch: I am glad to see some one making commonsense reviews about air gun in general, sure makes it easier to choose what will work for the individual shooters out there. 

dasameo163: Does the umarex surge have the five chamber damping system?

mapbike: excellent review, I'm thinking seriously about getting one of these in the Umarex Surge form, I have an old XS-B18 Chinese rifle which is a clone of the Gamo 220/440, it shoots pretty good but, it seems I would have a much better rifle in the Umarex Surge. I watch your reviews all the time and really enjoy them, thank you and keep them coming, I cant wait to see a review of the New Crosman NP2 that is coming out soon, please get one asap and give us a great run down of the new trigger and power with common pellets like the Crosman domes and crosman HP's

kyle strauss: Hi i recently just bought this air rifel and when i take a shot it smokes after.. i took a credit card and my breec seal was completly flat How do i replace the breech seal i never have before thanks! And great review ive been having trouble zeroing the scope in at 20 yards also.

Jerry Kittle: Yhanks ...i had the crosman storm xt....changed the spring three times....the springs really suck....so Assumeing the springs in the ruger/umerex are just as cheap,i wanted to find out if a diferent company made a better spring or even stronger...

Adrien Kennedy: Should i buy the umarex surge?Found it for 90 dollars. 

Milton Parker: put a BSA Optics Red, GREEN, Blue Dot Sight on it for $30, sits and functions on this rifle well..fun!!!!

Kendall Riebel: Got another question on this rifle. I've been shooting it a lot past couple days and its very sparatic it's all over. I've pulled out screws as you suggested then put blue thread lock on all. And was still all over cleaned barrel three times trying to change then retightened scope screws ended up twisting one off. So put a small 3 by 7 on i had on henry 22 lr so i know this scope and mounts are good shot like ten shots trying to sight in before giving up! Would that barrel seal be a possible cause? It also did have the yellow tag pinched in barrel as u was talking, but I thought it looked okay. Any suggestions? And if bad would a regular o-ring like for hydraulics work?

Loveemyboo1: Is their anyway I can take off the front thing of the rifle. Has a small plastic screw took it off but couldn't remove the muzzle. 

MadRiverCarpenter: I put a lot of blame on the scope at first. I had accurate hits, then a few inexplicable fliers. After I tore the gun apart and put it back together, it worked well for about 40 shots. I checked the screws, and they were all coming loose again. I really hope Loctite does the trick. 

iceman5815: My Ruger blackhawk doesn't lock up anymore when I break the barrel. Can anyone help? I bought it brand new 6 months ago and only had maybe 1000 rounds through it and now I can't even shoot it.

tim lee: Thanks, do I need to disassemble the gun and clean it?

tim lee: can you use an o ring from the hardware store for the breech seal?

droida8: Thanks a lot for making this video! I had the same problem with the screws coming loose and without this video I would've most likely got really frustrated and smashed this gun in my driveway lol. I replaced my scope with a decent Winchester 4x32 and now I'm taking out squirrels with one shot with Crosman Destroyer EX pellets. I've tried every pellets you can buy at walmart and a few sports stores in my area and none do half as good as these pellets with this gun if anyone is curious. Thanks again sir!!!

Jerry Kittle: One moor thing when the spring breaks....and it will....who has the best spring to replace. It with?

Milton Parker: the gun cost $90 bucks, im going to enjoy it as much as an adult man can!

Crabsdonthum: Thanks for the review. I decided to take a chance on this rifle. Your conclusion that with some work it turned out more accurate and powerful than a lot of higher priced guns had me intrigued. I'm decently mechanically inclined and figured I'd give a go. Well I was really surprised. Maybe Umarex saw your review of this gun and went to work. I didn't have to do a thing to it. I just mounted the scope and it was on. This rifle is a real gem. I had no issues with the o-ring being flattened. There was Lock-tight on every screw I could see. Right out of the box after I got the scope zeroed I was shooting quarter sized 5 shot groups at 25 yards. And this was in a sitting position as I don't have a proper bench rest. As for decibels it was no louder than my Benji 392. Actually I guess if I have a complaint it's the cheap scope. It's pretty fuzzy in low light. But it holds zero. I'm not going to yell too much about it. It does the trick. It's good at 25 yards.

Kendall Riebel: Are you still unable to reply? Cause I have a question I got one of these rifles and first 5 shots sounded great and then it started to sound like a plinker

BaseballPRO16: would u recomend this or the beeman kodiak silver (i think thats what its called) for small game hunting?

Jerry Kittle: What size washers do i use and how much do i trim off the sleeve?

Jerry Kittle: is it possible to put in a gas piston in these?also how would i go about ramping up the power of this gun?

tim lee: Thank You for your help.

myairgunreviews: I had the best luck with Crosman Premier Hollow Point 7,9 grain pellets at 20 yards. The H&N (Or Beeman) Crow Magnum 9.26 grain or the JSB Match Diabolo Exact 8.44 grain are also good choices.

MykTheOccultist: do you think the umarex surge .22 actually shoots at 1200fps?

myairgunreviews: The Blackhawk Elite has a little more pop to it but I think the quality of the Air Hawk is better and would be my gun of choice for the same price.

myairgunreviews: The 2nd stage was stiff but predictable. I'd spend $20 more and get the Hatsan Striker Edge.

flatpickinman: Agree - all the screws need to be cleaned and thread-locked. Note that the breech lockup is now bushed, not just a through bolt, and is much less of a problem to accuracy as a result.

John David: What can pest can i shoot with this and did they stop making the blackhawk elite with a thumbhole stock?

WOODDUCK DAN: I really enjoy watching your reviews. I'm looking at the Umarex Surge Xt, which is a newer model exclusive for Cabela's. It looks like this rifle except it has a weaver style scope rail. Questions are. 1) How did you like the trigger? Umarex claims a little over 3#. 2)Did you need to use the Artillery hold for better accuracy? Also, would you say this Umarex is better or worse than your standard Crosman in the same price? I'm looking at the Fury 2. or may get a Crosman Nitro, Any recommends?

myairgunreviews: Surge.

myairgunreviews: What are you going to use it for?

T Mathews: thanks for the review nice video!!!

gerald johnson: all air gun's take a few hundred shot's to even out

GreendudePlays: I am going to use it for crows and pest control sorry I didn't answer sooner 😄

Zeus Greek: Great video thank you

Vaughn Fletcher: The scopes are always trash, it's just something thrown in the box to make it seem complete. Try it with a real scope before you give up on it.
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Review, Ruger Blackhawk Elite / Umarex Surge .177 Cal Air Rifles 4.7 out of 5

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