jky242: Just picked one these rifles up today and grabbed a tin of crosman lead
pointed pellets. Surprised how loud a report the first two shots made, not
sure why but the rest sounded normal. Anyway I see from your review I have
some work to do. Great review, very much appreciated sir.
Enrique Pabalate: My problem with the Umerex Surge and the Ruger Talon which is basically
similar is that the stock screw at the trigger area comes loose. I've
applied some blue Loctite on it and it still loosens up after about 25 to
50 shots. Other than that it shoots pretty well for the price.
ogbobbye: Just got this Ruger Blackhawk and I'm happy he's right on the scope coming
loose after getting the it near zeroed in mine came loose and I had to
tighten it back up. The scope isn't all the bad I was shooting dimes at
dead center in only about 25 shots. I have not had the problem with bolts
coming loose (except the scope) that he talked about but I plan to use lock
tight anyway as he suggested. Over all for 99 dollars it's a great air
rifle. My 1st shot at a squirrel was dead on between the eyes at just under
20 yards and an instance kill..... by the way Great review
Bob Mullins: why did you reconmend this to me if it was that much of a pain to settle
down. i dont mind paying up to 200 for one. is this the best one that
walmart has? i also have a gander mountian aboult two miles from me. i just
want to make sure i get a good one that i dont have to take back to the
Aaron Stuter: I hope you can help me out, I cannot get this rifle to shoot a group under
2 inches. I'm using 7.9 gr crosman hollowpoints, I've cleaned the barrel
religiously, checked all bolts, put Teflon tape under the breach seal, and
I'm using a tasco 9 x 32 scope.
wtsig76: Thanks for the great vid. I was just wondering where I could get the o-ring
seal for the breach seal. I'm impressed with the power of this thing so
far. I'm just shooting some basic daisy and crosman pellets. I'm also
wondering what you would suggest for hobby target shooting and occasional
varmit. Will the cheepo pellets do the job? or is there a good lead pellet
available? Also, are alloy pellets wortgh the hype? Everything seems to be
about FPS when they market these guns. I just want accuracy and small game
knock down power.
Harley Rowland: I have a problem with the stalk it was broken as soon as I got it out off
the box I only had it 1 day and I have to buy a new one
mk phelps: do you consider this gun to be a good gun for squirrel hunting? What do you
know about the Gamo rocket air rifle?
myairgunreviews: For some reason I am unable to post a reply to questions or comments posted
on this review. Sorry
L. E. Young Jr.: A great review! Answers all my questions about my own experience with a
Umarex Surge, I bought from Big Five Store. It explains why I was having so
much trouble getting this gun to group less then eight inch pattern! Dido
on the scope as well! It's cheep but functional. Clean the barrel, before
firing the first time. It had so much assembly oil in it that it ran out
the mussel and it still "exploded" on the first shot! And, don't use cheep
pelts if you want any good performance.
carlos Hernandez: Is this also a gun you would use for rabbit hunting
Brandon Chambers: is this thing a CO2 or Pump style?
Patrick Higdon: I've shot this one when I was visiting family in MO. We were shooting
quarters (which almost went through at 25yds), and then moved on to dimes.
The scope just needs to be zeroed properly and this thing is awesome. It is
solid, and a great quality product. At 50yds it almost goes through a 50
gallon barrel (also observed). For the money this thing is a lot of fun so
I bought one. Aside from that 22 ammo is really hard to find! I can buy
pellets all day for cheap! So for plinking or small game get an air rifle!
John Henry Eden: When you were firing this gun, what pellet fit/seated best in it?
herne777: Personally, I'd get the ruger air hawk. Scopes on $100 air rifles are junk
across the board.
James Roberson: The stock scope is horrible!
Ruben Perez: Do I have to do all those steps before shooting my rifle like you did?
Nathanael K: I just shot about twenty shots through mine for the first time today. So
far it is excellent. The scope was able to be zeroed in at 10 yards with no
problem with the pellets getting stacked close together freehanded with my
unsteady hand. The breech seal in mine seems ok but I may get the shimm kit
eventually. Definitely thinking about more umarex products in the future!
Thomas Garvey: I purchased one to help exterminate a rat we had in our neighborhood .
First time I fired it at all , was a confirmed kill . Took it to the gun
range this past weekend , dead on . Didn't need to do anything . The rat
didn't have a chance . I love it and would recommend it highly . Even if it
has some future issues .
Milton Parker: I use Stoeger x-speed high velocity precision pellets 5.56 gr..there's
something about the domed pellets that shoot the best...but seriously go on
to amazon and buy these, they shoot accurate and very very hard..better and
more impressive than anything I have used...lead free alloy...
Dana Whitfield: SO if you can only have one would you have this rifle or the Crosman
Optimus? I'm looking for a low price critter getter.
mapbike: excellent review, I'm thinking seriously about getting one of these in the
Umarex Surge form, I have an old XS-B18 Chinese rifle which is a clone of
the Gamo 220/440, it shoots pretty good but, it seems I would have a much
better rifle in the Umarex Surge. I watch your reviews all the time and
really enjoy them, thank you and keep them coming, I cant wait to see a
review of the New Crosman NP2 that is coming out soon, please get one asap
and give us a great run down of the new trigger and power with common
pellets like the Crosman domes and crosman HP's
Milton Parker: put a BSA Optics Red, GREEN, Blue Dot Sight on it for $30, sits and
functions on this rifle well..fun!!!!
Adrien Kennedy: Should i buy the umarex surge?Found it for 90 dollars.
Dennis Lynch: I am glad to see some one making commonsense reviews about air gun in
general, sure makes it easier to choose what will work for the individual
shooters out there.
droida8: Thanks a lot for making this video! I had the same problem with the screws
coming loose and without this video I would've most likely got really
frustrated and smashed this gun in my driveway lol. I replaced my scope
with a decent Winchester 4x32 and now I'm taking out squirrels with one
shot with Crosman Destroyer EX pellets. I've tried every pellets you can
buy at walmart and a few sports stores in my area and none do half as good
as these pellets with this gun if anyone is curious. Thanks again sir!!!
MadRiverCarpenter: I put a lot of blame on the scope at first. I had accurate hits, then a few
inexplicable fliers. After I tore the gun apart and put it back together,
it worked well for about 40 shots. I checked the screws, and they were all
coming loose again. I really hope Loctite does the trick.
Jerry Kittle: so what diameter are those washers( Shimms) your useing
Milton Parker: the gun cost $90 bucks, im going to enjoy it as much as an adult man can!
Crabsdonthum: Thanks for the review. I decided to take a chance on this rifle. Your
conclusion that with some work it turned out more accurate and powerful
than a lot of higher priced guns had me intrigued. I'm decently
mechanically inclined and figured I'd give a go.
Well I was really surprised. Maybe Umarex saw your review of this gun and
went to work. I didn't have to do a thing to it. I just mounted the scope
and it was on. This rifle is a real gem.
I had no issues with the o-ring being flattened. There was Lock-tight on
every screw I could see. Right out of the box after I got the scope zeroed
I was shooting quarter sized 5 shot groups at 25 yards. And this was in a
sitting position as I don't have a proper bench rest. As for decibels it
was no louder than my Benji 392.
Actually I guess if I have a complaint it's the cheap scope. It's pretty
fuzzy in low light. But it holds zero. I'm not going to yell too much about
it. It does the trick. It's good at 25 yards.
Seiji Nishimatsu: I got this model (umarex I believe) from walmart for about $100+tax and
shot plenty of rounds without issues. I shoot lead pointed pellets and
through some research I believe it goes about 1000 fps (1200 with alloy
pellets). My question was, since I have an interest in the Gamo Big Cat
1400, if I should return the Blackhawk and pay the extra $80 or so (total
$180+tax) for the 1400, or if the Blackhawk is just as powerful/accurate as
the 1400 with lead pellets (not PBA or alloy pellets). I appreciate your
time in reading this and helping me out
tim lee: Thank You for your help.
dasameo163: Does the umarex surge have the five chamber damping system?
Jerry Kittle: Yhanks ...i had the crosman storm xt....changed the spring three
times....the springs really suck....so Assumeing the springs in the
ruger/umerex are just as cheap,i wanted to find out if a diferent company
made a better spring or even stronger...
kyle strauss: Hi i recently just bought this air rifel and when i take a shot it smokes
after.. i took a credit card and my breec seal was completly flat How do i
replace the breech seal i never have before thanks! And great review ive
been having trouble zeroing the scope in at 20 yards also.
iceman5815: My Ruger blackhawk doesn't lock up anymore when I break the barrel. Can
anyone help? I bought it brand new 6 months ago and only had maybe 1000
rounds through it and now I can't even shoot it.
Kendall Riebel: Got another question on this rifle. I've been shooting it a lot past couple
days and its very sparatic it's all over. I've pulled out screws as you
suggested then put blue thread lock on all. And was still all over cleaned
barrel three times trying to change then retightened scope screws ended up
twisting one off. So put a small 3 by 7 on i had on henry 22 lr so i know
this scope and mounts are good shot like ten shots trying to sight in
before giving up! Would that barrel seal be a possible cause? It also did
have the yellow tag pinched in barrel as u was talking, but I thought it
looked okay. Any suggestions? And if bad would a regular o-ring like for
Jerry Kittle: One moor thing when the spring breaks....and it will....who has the best
spring to replace. It with?
Loveemyboo1: Is their anyway I can take off the front thing of the rifle. Has a small
plastic screw took it off but couldn't remove the muzzle.
BaseballPRO16: would u recomend this or the beeman kodiak silver (i think thats what its
called) for small game hunting?
Jerry Kittle: What size washers do i use and how much do i trim off the sleeve?
Kendall Riebel: Are you still unable to reply? Cause I have a question I got one of these
rifles and first 5 shots sounded great and then it started to sound like a
Jerry Kittle: is it possible to put in a gas piston in these?also how would i go about
ramping up the power of this gun?
tim lee: Thanks, do I need to disassemble the gun and clean it?
tim lee: can you use an o ring from the hardware store for the breech seal?
myairgunreviews: I had the best luck with Crosman Premier Hollow Point 7,9 grain pellets at
20 yards. The H&N (Or Beeman) Crow Magnum 9.26 grain or the JSB Match
Diabolo Exact 8.44 grain are also good choices.
MykTheOccultist: do you think the umarex surge .22 actually shoots at 1200fps?
myairgunreviews: The Blackhawk Elite has a little more pop to it but I think the quality of
the Air Hawk is better and would be my gun of choice for the same price.
myairgunreviews: The 2nd stage was stiff but predictable. I'd spend $20 more and get the
Hatsan Striker Edge.
flatpickinman: Agree - all the screws need to be cleaned and thread-locked. Note that the
breech lockup is now bushed, not just a through bolt, and is much less of a
problem to accuracy as a result.
Review, Ruger Blackhawk Elite / Umarex Surge .177 Cal Air Rifles4.6
out of 5