Benjamin Trail NP XL 1100 : GRT-III Trigger Upgrade Installation




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sscooterManicZZ: Can you do this on the crosman nitro venom?

davcharest7: The most simple way and FREE, it's of removing the little tensioner spring on the the trigger...huge difference...

Smallmouthchaser: Hello I read some of the comments on here and just want to make sure I heard you right...So simply taking off the stock trigger and replacing it with the CDT trigger voids the warranty?? If you had a warranty issue in the future couldn't you just put the stock trigger back on the rifle?? I was going to order one of the CDT Triggers but I don't want to have to do any filing or worrying about the gun not roostering right or any problems because my 17 year old son is going to be the main operator of the gun....I thought that it was just a simple replacement trigger without any modifications to the gun at all...Can you install the Custom trigger without any modifications to the Rifle what so ever?? Thanks.

TheStupidMonkey007: The barrel shouldn't snap shut while roostering and loading. If it does, it means that you have to fix the bear trap lever which I will answer in your following comment.

gdoginthehood: On a chart of difficulty 1-10 What would u say it is to install

usarmy1221121: Does the barrel snap shut if you don't hold it while loading the pellet after installing this?

skydive14: all is well with bear trap and trigger is a dream come true. (ben elite has kick) I wonder how often I'll be re-sighting in

TheStupidMonkey007: No matter what you do to the factory trigger you won't be able to get it smooth or to function as nice as a CDT GRT-III trigger. I worked on my factory trigger before replacing it and I got it to where it was "tolerable", but still left me guessing as to when it would fire sometimes. With the GRT-III I always knew when it would fire. My recommendation is save yourself some frustration and just order a CDT GRT-III Trigger. :)

Miner Apple: Got the new trigger today and I watched your video again as a refresher. I had it installed in 5 minutes! Thanks again for your video.

TheStupidMonkey007: Thanks, I'm glad you liked the video. Sorry about the focus, I wish I had an HD camera for better clarity, but that will have to wait. Concerning the breaking of the action, I just found that I couldn't remove the e-clip on mine without doing so. You may be able to remove with out breaking the action, I just found it easier to remove that way. Either way, as long as you get the same result in the end your gun will be better with the new trigger.

blackandsmart: Very detailed video, made my job so much easier! During my installation a small cylindrical pin fell out, I don't know what it is. It has the same diameter as the narrow part of the pin that goes in the bear trap, and it is 1/4" long. Do you know this part?

Tristen Naquin: sorry i wasnt paying much attention to the beginning of the dis assembly i heard you say something about removing the screw behind the trigger and i thaught you were talking about the entire trigger guard. i understand what you mean tho thank you. but i did see another video where the guy had to remove his trigger guard. i just wanted to clarify by watching your video. sorry for wasting your time. il use this video to install mine when i get it

TheStupidMonkey007: It is a simple Phillips screw driver. Locate the screws on the rifle to see what type it has and use the appropriate type (usually Phillips).

TheStupidMonkey007: @skydive14 , When setting up your scope, make sure to put Loctite 242 on all fasteners on rings. Tighten then down snug, but not too tight. You don't want to strip out the screws. Then let it sit the alloted time the Loctite 242 package recommends. I had to use this on both my Gamo and Trail NP XL and since then I have not had any problems with scope slippage.

nowthisisfishing: where did you get the trigger?

Kuo Zhao: great, great,great..I feel uncomfortable with my NP's trigger, and I found this video..by the way, where I can buy the trigger you showed in the video?

TheStupidMonkey007: To fix the bear trap lever you have to remove it & there is a little tab on it (see my video on the GRT-III Trigger update (one of the last videos I did before I got real busy). I show in that video what the bear trap lever is & what you will need to file or sand down just a little to fix the issue. If you don't fix the issue it will create an unsafe condition with your rifle and will either result in you or someone else getting injure or your barrel getting bent. Check out that video for help.

TheStupidMonkey007: If I remember correctly is was $32 shipped to your door.

TheStupidMonkey007: I personally feel that the money was not wasted. The GRT-III trigger is a better trigger made out of solid aircraft type aluminum, it is lighter and the GRT-III trigger actually has adjustability where the original factory trigger does not. I'm glad you were able to modify it yourself to work to your satisfaction and that you are happy with your modification. Perhaps you would be so kind as to make a video of what you did to help others to be able to make their Benji Trail NPs shoot better. :)

TheStupidMonkey007: If it is the part I'm thinking of, it is a plastic bushing/roller that keeps the roostering are moving smoothly within the stock. If it is ruined, I would suggest calling the Crosman Service Center (you can find their number on the website) and as for Jan. Let her know what model/make air rifle you have and she'll be able to direct you in the right direction to order a new part. Since you disassembled it, the warranty is void so you'll have to pay for the parts.

fowlsin: i will, when my crosman venom get's here, i hope i get it this week or next week, but i will show you guy's how easy it is and how safe it is.

TheStupidMonkey007: Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and I hope all works well with your trigger installation when it arrives. Have fun!

skydive14: well, I installed the trigger. getting the main pin through while fighting the triggers tension was a rodeo but all went thru very quick. Due to it being a Christmas gift, I rewrap and boxed it til the 25th, shooting the 26th. my Ben Elite NP XL 1500 will be worth the wait.

A Qu: I just installed the trigger on my trail NP, gun won't stay roostered. can you post video where exactly to file down? Thanks.

TheStupidMonkey007: No problem. It's not a waste of my time to help out other fellow air gunners, it is my pleasure to help out. I just wanted to make sure that we were talking about the same part of the rifle, that was all. Have fun and shoot safe. :)

TheStupidMonkey007: I'm sure what you are talking about. In the video (the very beginning of the video) I never mention having to remove the trigger guard. There is a screw in the back end of the trigger guard that must be removed in order to take the action out of the stock (and I mention this), but actually removing the trigger guard is not necessary. Perhaps you are trying to describe a different part of the trigger assembly. Can you clarify it so I can help give you a proper answer? Thanks. :)

tykee19: oh ok thanks i really apriciate it and im sure others will to but i havent goten it yet i will be getting the btrlxl 1100 for christmas hopefully was thanking about it for my bday which is 4 days till now but i decided not to and thanks again

TheStupidMonkey007: You can go to google.com or any other search engine and type in grt-III or CharlieDaTuna and you will find a link to his website.

TheStupidMonkey007: @tykee19 , You are very welcome. I thought it would help other Trail NP XL owners to see the benefits of the trigger replacement. One thing the video does not show, because it was a couple of days later, is that I had to file down the tab on the Bear Trap Lever (small tab on the lever that passes over the pin that is in the Bear Trap). Make sure that the tab on the lever will clear past that pin or you will have problems with the gun not staying roostered and you could get injured. (See Comments)

TheStupidMonkey007: @tykee19 , I'm going to make another video showing this rifle shooting at 10 and 20 yards with this trigger. I'll also point out the additional modification that I had to do so others will know what to look for when changing out the trigger.

335iBimmer: I got this trigger today and installed it in 10 minutes, took it out to shoot and no!! I got a hair pin trigger. Is there any possible way to fix it?

AWD Spitfire: Is it possible to make the Benjamin trail xl 1100 a hair trigger? or is this only to make it a smoother trigger?

TheStupidMonkey007: @tykee19 , No problem. If you get one, do the trigger mod and you will really like the rifle. I went from liking this rifle to really, really liking to shoot this gun. The trigger upgrade/replacement really helps with accuracy.

RedE2Rok69: Great vid. Liked the detailed info. Wish you had better focus. The instructions don't call for you to break the action to remove any parts, so why did you? Saw another vid where the guy didn't do that and he completed the replacement. Was is really necessary?

andrewg367: I just installed the same trigger on the same gun. It is such a slight pull to fire the rifle that I am not sure if it is working properly. Seems to be no first stage at all and fires with the trigger moving less then a 16th of an inch. Perhaps I am just used to the super long pull of the old trigger, but I have only put maybe 40 pellets through it before installing this trigger.

skydive14: I'll check that when I get off duty at 7am (Wife would flip if I tested it in the garage while SHE was home)

TheStupidMonkey007: Thanks! It would be nice to see how someone has figured out how to make these glitchy factory triggers work like they should. :) I look forward to seeing the video.

TheStupidMonkey007: Tigers2012ACC, from what I understand a hair trigger can occur and not ever air rifle of the same model reacts the same to the GRT-III Trigger. On the Charlie Da Tuna website from what I can remember it said to put the old trigger back in immediately. You might try looking at the Charlie Da Tuna website or sending him a message about your issue. My particular Benji Trail NPXL did have the hair trigger issue. I wish I knew more.

TheStupidMonkey007: It took about a week and arrived in a bubble pack envelope.

Oxgangs1966: I bought the GRT III and its hardly made any difference :(

Max Moffitt: how do u fire each shot so fast when its a single shot gun cause i have one and i cant fire it that fast

TheStupidMonkey007: Thanks for the compliment. :) Concerning the part that seems to have fallen out... I'm not sure without seeing the part. However, you can go to Crosman.com and at the bottom of the main web page there is a link to Downloads. Click on that, then click on the appropriate brand you have. Next pick the model number of the particular rifle/gun you have. Download the exploded parts view and the parts list. That should help you to find what the part is and where it goes. I hope this helps out.

TheStupidMonkey007: I'm glad the video was helpful to you. Thanks for watching and commenting. I hope you have allot of fun with your NPXL. :)

TheStupidMonkey007: By installing this trigger, there is the chance that your particular Benjamin Trail NPXL can become a "Hair Trigger" or unsafe. They specify this directly on their website as a disclaimer. I would recommend contacting the manufacturer of the trigger, they will be able to answer questions better than a person like myself. I don't even own this particular air rifle anymore.

fowlsin: hey dude what much did you waste your money on that trigger, for me i just put a longer screw where the adjustment screw is,you can get the screw from any toy or something that use's small screws as long as you have the screw 50 to 75% longer than the screw that came with it and the safe and fire trigger also works but don't screw it in too much because your gun won't rooster at all, just change the screw nothing else

John Doe: How much does that trigger cost?

Tristen Naquin: thanks

tykee19: omg i am so glad someone put the video up of changing the trigger thanks man

TheStupidMonkey007: I'm glad it was helpful for you. Have fun and shoot safe. :)

TheStupidMonkey007: @skydive14 , You are right... It will be worth the wait :) . Did you test it before replacing the action back in the stock? Did you make sure that the Bear Trap Lever was clearing the pin in the Bear Trap? I only ask because that was one thing I didn't check the first time around and it led to saftey issues with my gun not staying roostered when I went to return the barrel to the shooting position. If you checked and it was fine, great. If not, you'll want to check that too.
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