TheArfdog: Cardboard? Cardboard?
Nopiw: your ass burgers are showing
eldom72: Both are great oil filters; I wouldn't hesitate to use either one. They
sell both at Walmart, but I buy Purolator because it's only $3.27 (L14459),
compared to Fram which cost $5.67 (PH9688).
jeffscomp: The Fram is a better design. More holes less restriction and the guy
opening it doesn't know how it works. I noticed my engine runs better with
Fram than Purolator and I never have problems. It still requires a routine
oil change but you can stretch the interval further apart.
Jesse Gurr: Shut the freak up and give those filters to someone who actually knows crap
about filters and go back to your ages 3+ my little pony package you moron,
they all work the same and for all the people that actually listen to this
ass clown you're all freaking degenerates.
William Randolph: I have a camry,and I NOW will never buy a fram,cant believe the ends are
made of CARDBOARD!! wonder how many engines they have ruined
panzerabwerkanone: I don't think I will take the advice of a guy who does not know the
difference between the anti drain back valve and the bypass valve. You
clearly do not.
SvddenDeth: heres my honest opinion i honestly like purolator and wix K&N and mobil 1
filters the best but fram is not as bad as everyone says if you change your
filter every oil change fram will do just fine but personally i do it every
5-8k miles since i run full synthetic using a purolator filter and no
Tom Fontana: This guy does't know much about oil filters. First the end caps on a Fram
are made of the same materials that's used in all filters, primarily
cellulose. Now if your filtering media in your filter does not break down
why would Fram's end caps fail. Secondly, that thing that he pointed to on
top of the filter is not an ant-drain back valve but a bypass valve. Her
makes the same mistake that so many people do. He looks at the filter
outside the can and does not envision the filter assembled. When assembled
the bypass valve is pressed hard against the end cap and the center tube
forming an excellent seal.
I have used Fram almost exclusively for over 40 years. I have zero
Brandon Faircloth: umm we r not owned by champblack
Edward st.antoine: they are chapion labs but no where near the same thing. they are made to
each companies spec.
Edward st.antoine: champ make a lot of filters for a lot of companies. they are not the same
however as they are built to the respective companies specs. well at least
some of em are.
Elty Tran: So I've used both these filters for my car; PH4386 and L14477 for my 2010
Corolla with a 2azfe engine. From my experience, the Fram Extraguard did a
better job compared to the Purolator Classic. In my situation, here's why:
-1st, the oil flow seem to be less restrictive with the Fram, and the car
idle without making a strange 'slurpping' noise every few minutes which I
was getting with the Purolator. It could be caused by the spiral design of
the Purolator bypass valve or something else, but it just didn't sound
right even if the car drove normally.
-2nd, the Fram sealed better on my engine. The Purolator never sealed as
well and oil would slowly leak from one side over time. Over the oil change
interval I would end up using an additional quart of oil.
I'm not sure whether it was only happening on my application only or a bad
batch of filters. Twice using a Puralotor Classic, I've had this occurred
to me. I know Purolator looks like it's built better than Fram in every
way, but I care more about how it's function on my particular car. Also
from what I've read, Honeywell(Fram) now makes Honda OEM oil filters with
fiber end discs, and some Toyota OEM filters don't use any end caps to hold
the filter media. Maybe that tells us something.
tingokuman: Ive always used fram oil filters NEVER AGAIN ! the purolators are usually
cheaper by dollars in European cars.thanx for the video
David1187: Cardboard? Technically they are called fiber end caps. I'm not a huge fan
of the Extra Guard, but the Tough Guard is a great filter IMO. Built pretty
much the same way except it has a silicon anti drain back valve and better
media. I think at this point I would rather run Fram. Google Purolator
torn media and see for yourself.
PromisKeeper: Thanks. That was helpful.
Rott BOY: Do most of my oil changes (except when I get those complementary free ones
from the dealer). Have been using Super Techs, but now that WMart got rid
of them, will use Purolators. Wow, never knew that Fram uses junk
internals. Great info on your video for us working guys.
Matt D: THUMBS UP FOR THE
Cardboard cardboard CARD..BOARD..
reso1349: I was just looking at the Purolator web site today and it appears that they
are now part of Mann-Hummel group.
Bone Daddy: fram put there focus on the outside of the filter to get people to think it
is better, orange paint, different then the other filters and relates to
construction equipment or "industrial" grade equipment fooling people into
thinking the filter is heavy duty, also the grip paint hinting that the
filter is quality outside and in, when in reality the quality ends as soon
as you go inside the case.
derf109: Adler1945: wrong! Rank Group is a gambling outfit and there's no way all
those diverse manufacturers are under the same ownership at all.
elzorro43: I will never use Fram products again. As for those guys down below saying
how good some of the Russian oil filters are I will say they are full of
crap, I will never put any thing Russian in my car, Russian cars are known
for auto destructing after living the factory. Nothing good ever came out
joeyf504327: wow, the cheap purolator is way better than fram! and careful when saying
all filters are the same. k&n filters are much heavier than other filters
because they are beefed up all around. bosch and k&n are the best filters
you can buy...
Julio Goris: Yeah I don't use fram anymore the gasket on my filter split in two and I
had a crazy oil leak I thought my engine broke or something then I check it
was the dumb filter so yeah no more fram
David Vollandt: i hate to break it to you man, but these filers were designed to operate in
an engine and filter oil, and not designed to impress us amateurs looking
at a cutout of the insides. objective test results is where the information
is. Anything else is noise.
abzdefg321123: Purolator is not made by champ labs. Up until recently Purolator was
independent and made their own filters; however they were recently bought
out by Bosch whom were previously made by champ labs but are now similar to
purolators. confusing? yes.. lol.
Indy452: The only thing I really like about the Frams are the grippy stuff on the
lower half of their filters...I wish other filter company's would do that...
Haffschlappe: In Germany we have the excellent SCT oilfilters!
Willow Fiasco: i heard the facebook message noise and it made me change tabs, you should
of saw how disappointed i was when it was in the video.
Monsiemage: Purolator is also cheaper.
Ben Moran: did you tighten it by hand ?
GremlinTale: For starters anyone that THINKS those end caps are just cardboard... well,
that pretty much sums up your intellect.
2006DURAMAX: Nice video. But a quick note; Purolator (Bosch, Mann, Motorcraft) is not
made by Champion Labs (Mobil, K&N, STP, Royal Purple). They are two
berryfafilling: hey i like cardboard....
o0Sp3cia1K0o: the gaps between the media on the fram...looks like madona teeth
EmcSqrd: Champion Laboratories is actually owned by Fram. Check out their website.
Eddie Fine: I am thankful to the fellow who did this review, as I've now seen several.
I once was ignorant about fram, but now I SEE the truth. What amazes me is
how many guys , (for who knows why), are commenting against this review.
PEOPLE JUS GOTTA ARGUE I GUESS!!!! The fact is before your eyes. Grow up
people, and be thankful for understanding the truth about a corporation's
cheap tricks in order to make money with their name at your expense. NOW...
WHICH ONE DO YOU REALLY WANT TO STAND WITH ?
jebova2301: Well, do a bit of searching on google. There is more than plenty of
information about this out there. The best examples are all the people who
have had a used oil analysis done by Blackstone Labs. They are totally
impartial, and tell you what contaminants are in the oil, oil life
remaining, etc etc. Fram oil pretty much ALWAYS comes back MUCH worse than
Purolator/Wix/K&N/other quality filters, especially in the "particulate
matter" test. Particulate matter is crap that can score your cylinders.
Ructy356: The ONLY problem I have ever had with FRAM filters is when I get one that
appears similar to the one listed on the packaging.and printed on the
filter can .. but is actually a different filter. THAT can cause a HUGE
problem if you don't check the new filter against the old one or don't
verify that you have oil pressure right away on start-up.
Torque Effect: *brohoof* /)
dlanes: That filter actually looks like an improvement from their old filters. I
wouldn't be afraid to run that on my car, their old filters were worst.
EMD SD70 MAC-h Phase II: hello brony
ApSykesThewolf: then again, this is a million dollar business... i mean if you can shave
off 10 cents per product and times that by a million, you pretty much saved
your company alot of money... i mean look at brake calipers, probaly most
important part of stopping a car... did you know car companies build brake
calipers as cheap as they can but keeping the bare minimum they need to
keep it so the car can stop safely? for them its: make it work + Save $ =
sleazoid99: Like others, I've used Fram for years and never had issues. Your argument
"Does it look like it's constructed for use in a vehicle?" isn't very
convincing. If there are cardboard components in the filters it's because
they are sufficient. Do you have any real data that can be used objectively
to compare the products?
playstation2bigs: have you seen Vic oil filters? made in japan
Ben Moran: Care to explain, WHY???
Dave Quick: "Does it look like it's constructed for use in a vehicle?....Might want to
ask that to the engineers,with university degrees, and STLE certification,
that design and engineer these filters......
Xénos Polemistí̱s: OMFG where do I get the mylilbronies oil filter?
RickTorn: Just another superficial review.
Klperformance68: Fram markets to people that have no clue! Just put pretty orange paint on a
turd & sell it!! I won't even buy Fram air filters!! JUNK