9mm Luger - Winchester 115 Gr. SXZ - Ammo Test




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andreleger2001: @silvereagle1833 The latest generation of the Black Talon design is the Winchester Ranger-T series. These are not the same design, but do have the same coating.

silvereagle1833: The Black Talon returns?

darkwriter77 .: Not bad, not bad. Saw some of this at Bass Pro tonight in .45 ACP and thought about picking it up for my 1911. At about 33 bucks for a box of 50, the price wasn't too shabby. Would make a good cheap round for anyone wanting to stockpile a lot of JHP ammo.

0Weaver0: good, but no Ranger Ts

Mr337boy: How much are they???

pmalveda02: for a 115 gr i would say not bad! :)

boarderboy287: excellent review btw, as always

rage340: pretty decent expansion, better than i expected

rage340: @hugo2x been around a little while, not talons, just has a black coating thats supposed to help keep the barrel from fouling as much

smartguy104: @silvereagle1833 Not sure why they are black like that the expansion result really reminds me of a silver tip.

jwash3rd: Another informative vid. Is that a 4" barrel on that Taurus? The scale has been a nice addition.

willwood487: good expansion and good weight retention= good ammo!

Bobby Kelley: I use this in my 1911.

NCtrailX: Saw these at Bass Pro - the 9mm ball ammo is around $14/50rounds and $20/50rounds for hollow points. Best price on hollow points that i have found. Most are $20/20-25rounds! Good to see that they expand well. Plan to pick some up - hope they run well too!

andreleger2001: @jwash3rd It is the same as a Beretta 92 = 5" barrel.

hugo2x: Is this a new type of ammo, like the talons?

andreleger2001: @hugo2x From what I understand, the SXZ rounds are the same as the Winchester White Box (USA) rounds except that they have a Lubalox coating. They are sold with an exclusive contract at Bass Pro Shops. They seem to have expanded exactly in the same manner. I will be posting the .40 S&W and .45 ACP versions as soon as I finish editing them.
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9mm Luger - Winchester 115 Gr. SXZ - Ammo Test