Patrick Mounsey: be as cheap to use breeze blocks and they last longer and are probably more
portable, if you want to re arrange your beds.
John Cook: The stakes look like crap on the outside of them boxes . But they are nice
boxes just look bad with exterior staking .
Sheds Direct Manchester: Honestly, I'm also planning to get started to grow that's why I wanted to
get some opinions on the different grow boxes. It is such a blessing in
disguise that I watch your video. Hence, I have reap lots of information.
Doug Shutes: The music is annoying but the info is good, thanks.
rtpr24: Get started now!
John Steele: I have just built one this side and I'm going to start planting this week,
I'm in Ennis TX. My question is how much weekly fertilizer do use use for
a box this size?
Northern Homestead: What is your direction of the grow boxes, go they south north or east west.
What would be better? Thank you!
Sheds Direct: This type of method is quite expensive but these is nice. I am pretty much
sure that the process in constructing these raised bed requires a lot of
time. However, if you have a good quality of garden beds, you might have a
very good space for your plants. I am thankful for your great effort in
sharing this just to let us know how to build a grow boxes. Thanks!
Bruce Dickey: wolmanizedwood /Docs/Outdoor/Safety_Tips_9-11.pdf I don't think YT will
allow this link in this text area. Wolmanized Residential Pressure Treated
Wood recommends specifically for raised beds that we use polyethelyne
sheeting between wood and raised grow bed.
Anna Forhisglory: forgot to tell you before you put the dirt in the box lay down cardboard if
you don't do it you will be sorry because the weeds will come right through
the dirt and you can't pull them up buy the root because they will break
before you can pull them up. I knew to do it but forgot what a night mare.
Also the cedar wood i put two boards one on top of the other. Hope this
John Keeley: I understand why you don't want to use the mulch in the boxes. However, I
don't understand why you don't want to use mulch in the walkways. Why would
you prefer bare soil in the walkways? Thank you.
LDSPrepper: That being said even though ceder leaches more than treated pine both are
great to use in the garden.
tonysshadow: Ive worked with lumber all my life (55 yrs old), though its been a about 5
or so years since Ive needed to work with treated. Never heard a word about
it being treated with copper these days. (Scratching head) I dont mean to
be a naysayer..but given that copper is actually a Wall Street traded
commodity with prices constantly changing...Im not sure the lumber industry
could live with that scenario. Thanks for the food for thought though, I
definitely want to read up on it now.
Chris Miller: To suggest that treated lumber is "perfectly fine" to use next to food that
is going to be consumed by humans is very questionable, if not outright
Damain Loback: Hey LDS is it smart to stain these on the outside??
Mike Manning: Great video, I'm looking forward to hearing more about your new gardens.
Can you expand on your thoughts about treated lumber in raised beds?
Nothing negative leeches into the soil? I used cedar for my needs this last
summer, but wouldn't mind using treated if I knew it was safe.
RLSgardener: Maybe you can help me. I read in Mittleider book to use 8" deep beds.
However, I'm trying to save some money and thinking about doing 6" beds. I
want to make 5 beds (4'x20') and the price difference using 2x8 vs 2x6 is
about $100. I was also thinking about using 1X6 corral boards verses 2x6 #2
boards which would save another $50 but Im not sure how long treated 1X6
wood would last.
LDSPrepper: Thank you for your recommendations. I have two 40 lbs bags of Azomite rock
dust as recommendation by John. I saw the video you are referring to a
while back. I think the rock dust is definitely better than not using
anything but not as complete as the Mittleider weekly fertilizer. The rock
dust is a lot more expensive too. So for less money and a more complete
feeding I will be using the Mittleider weekly fertilizer with this garden.
The 30+ years of growing gardens is remarkable proof.
bruce q: dont use pressure treated wood dont use it please
TheTx2styp: Opps...I was watching your video when I type the comment. I was getting
bore when all the detail of your effort to level the boxes.
jermelger: You definitely do not want to use treated lumber, there are chemicals that
will leach into the soil making organic gardening impossible. If you use
two by materials the box will last quite a while. I have 2X6 boxes that
have been working for more than 10 years.
TheGrowingAwareness: Furthermore, ALL compaies that make treated lumber recomentd that the
lumber dry out for 5 - 8 months before staining "as the chemicals will not
evaporate out before then". We are not able to stain the material due to
the chemicals in it for 5 to 8 months, but it is ok for raised beds? I just
don't know about that one .. I will stick to normal wood though it will not
last as long.
jman41171: With the corners it's a lot stronger if you don't screw directly into the
end grain. On my beds I have 2x4 standing upright in the joint so I can
have the screws against the grain from both directions.
Anna Forhisglory: Hi can you please share the link or company where you buy your Mittleider
GivingYouTruth: Isn't there a big drawback with using the Mittleider method, like having to
treat the soil once or twice a week with a combination of lime, Epsom salt,
etc. For a bigger garden it would be hundreds of pounds a month of need
materials. I'm I wrong?
tonysshadow: Excellent little video! Expecially the updates with your voice of
experience added, concerning soil prep and reaction. Thats the "make or
break" point of any little garden for me. Seems a bit like painting a
car...90% of the job is prepping. You are well on you way to a second
career pouring concrete, with form building almost under your hat...hehe.
LDSPrepper: My wife and I use different gardening approaches. The one thing we have in
common is we know if you want healthy plants and awesome produce you need
to fertilize once a week. The advantage of the Mittleider method is you
know your plants are getting 100% of all the minerals and trace minerals
for full health which will produce nutritious frouts and vegetables. We
have learned it costs a lot of money to short cut this step in reduced
health and harvest. Definitely fertilize weekly.
LDSPrepper: Anything you do to help preserve the wood either by staining or painting
will make them last longer. If that is why you want to stain it stain the
inside as well. I thought about staining it for appearance but I found I
didn't need to. It looks great the way it is.
Bruce Dickey: Thanks LDSPrepper for your hard work and sharing. You are correct that
Copper Arsenate was removed from pressure treated wood for residential some
time back, so the arsenic is gone from newly produced wood. Still a safety
tip from Wolmanized Lumber recommends separating grow medium from the
treated wood with plastic sheeting. It should be easy enough to find and
read yourself from their website .com
LDSPrepper: It is work. But for me it is worth the effort for the amazing results I
get. I have tried gardening methods that are less work but they also have
less production and the plants are less healthy. For me there has to be a
balance between work and results. This method has by far the greatest
reward for the effort. Of course you don't have to build a raised bed. You
can make a soil bed and follow the same Mittleider gardening method for
nocogarden: i have made the mistake of making raised beds that long before, they will
start to bow in the middle very quickly. you are in Texas are you not?,
what is the reason for having raised beds in your area anyway. we do it in
Colorado because of our shorter growing season. but the soil temp in mid
summer is a problem for me even here. seems to me it would be an even
bigger problem there.
Michael L. HARPOLD: Really surprised that you use pressure treated lumber. I know it will last
longer, but I worry about the chemicals leaching into the soil. Can't be
good for you, or the veggies. Wouldn't it be much healthier to bite the
bullet and replace those that rot during the year?
GrannyBird Birdsong: ...but wouldn't cinder blocks last basically forever? Even treated wood
rots out after awhile.
Anna Forhisglory: Buy Rock dust it has lots of minerals, also check this out. Grow Gigantic
Vegetables By Harnessing the Soil Food Web
Anna Forhisglory: We did it with cedar fence wood you just need pegs for holding it. bugs
hate cedar wood. much love Anna
jermelger: The wood is not pretty after 10 years but the structure is still there.
Concrete blocks would cost more and take more space, so that would be out
for me, plus as with the treated lumber I am not comfortable with it being
that close to my plants. I was going to even make DEEP boxes with concrete
to regulate the spreading of my raspberry roots. but prolly not now.
The MORNING gardener's SHOW.: I LOVE THIS VIDEO,BUT FOR ME JUST TO MUCH WORK FOR GARDENING .BUT I LOVE
LDSPrepper: I agree. It is very important if you are not going to dig up the grass that
you smother it with newspaper and cardboard before putting in the dirt.
LDSPrepper: We use several gardening methods. All have different benefits and
drawbacks. I really like this method because I know that my plants are
getting all the nutrients they need to be healthy and can pass on the
nutrients to me. Although the B2EG is totally free the plants are only
getting the nutrients that is in the tree mulch. If the trees were nutrient
deficient so will your garden plants.
LDSPrepper: I can't put a workable link in a comment but I there is one below the video
in the "more info" section. Please use that to go to their site then go to
LDSPrepper: Excellent. Actually you will need both newspaper and cardboard. The
newspaper is needed because it is soft and pliable so it will suffocate the
grass. The cardboard is used to push down the newspaper and completely
block out light. Where we only had cardboard the grass and weeds grew
tonysshadow: BTW...in addition to what I said below. One thing you are
using...galvanized metals.. is zinc coated. Zinc is a good thing,
expecially if you have growing kids.
Dora Thompson: Dr. Mittleider would be proud. Pay attention to details now like leveling
the bed itself and you will have less to deal with later. If you have any
questions, Jim Kennard and the group is happy to answer questions.
Psycho Mantis: Tip, put your support pegs or stakes on the inside of the box, your
lawnmower can get flush with the box, and it looks cleaner if you paint
them afterwards as well.
GdnPro12: I would lay down cardboard as well to be safe but all my boxes (5) I have
done so far have not been with cardboard and I had no weed problems. They
are all a few years old now. A lot of it depends on the climate and the
spot you pick. If the soil under them isn't that good the weeds don't have
the energy and vigor to make it up through the mix in the box.
Jeanette Grisham: Hi. This is Amarillo, TX. and was wondering I've planting the Back to Eden
method, but would the nutrients of the Mittleider weekly grow work also
since it's so late in the summer. My plants are growing just not producing.
Could that help?
Anna Forhisglory: Thanks a lot.
venicestu: I thought you were trying B2EG, now Mittleider. Opposite growing systems, I
guess your experimenting to find what works best. Not up on current treated
lumber chemicals, what are they using in the wood? good job, peace
LDSPrepper: Since I used sawdust and sand I have no weed seeds. It is super cheap and a
great soil mix.
Talifamily1: I did not read through the posts on the last vid where you said you were
using this method. What was your reasoning using this method vice the B2EG
system. I have just breifly looked at the system and it seems to waste alot
of space in the isles. Please explain the functionality of the wide paths.
When I planned my garden(Raised beds) I went for MAX growable space to grow
the most food not so much SFG but as compact as possible. BTW love the
Texas ready vids.
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