Isiah Stroud: What is the weight comparison of the two guns.
billy fatbowe: ...M&P options?...therearent any...LoL...
Mike Grimes: How about the way they shoot? Recoil? Accuracy? I woud imagine with the lighter weight the Kahr would have more recoil and less accurate with the shorter sight radius.
Rugged Boys Outdoors: shield hands down. better trigger and holds another round.
Ammo Man: The CM9 would be a better comparison as I paid $345 for one and $335 for the shield.
eludethis: For $300 more you can get a CZ-75 P01.
SKKC1986: I guess for $300 extra bucks, you get a smaller gun I guess...........haha
MegaChubbyboy: I would pick the Shield over the PM9 even if the prices were the same. Withe the ridiculous price of the PM9, the choice is even easier-----Shield.
TheSquigims: field strip is easier on the Kahr. The M&P needs a goofy tool.
Charles Rodriguez: Why go thru all the work to a video review when you don't know all the facts related to the guns. Do the research before putting it on line. I realized a little less than half way thru that the guy was not familiar enough with the manufacturing quality of the Kahr to really talk about.
Z.A.P. Squad: Didn't read thru all the replies, but if someone haven't commented on why the $300 price difference, it is because the PM9 has a polygonal barrel, thus the "P" in its name. The CM9 which is essentially the same as the PM9, except the CM9 has a conventional barrel, thus the "C" in its name. The polygonal barrel is a much better barrel.
13noman1: Thanks for the informative video. This is useful for someone considering either the Kahr or the Shield as a new purchase, though a direct comparison with the Kahr CW9 (price, size etc) would likely be more relevant. I have a few Kahrs (including the PM9 here) and found this review helpful in staving off the desire for another slim 9 given that the differences are fairly minor (except for cost)...and I already have the Kahr.
Antione Ford: Good video. I own the Stainless PM9 and owned the Shield in 9mm and sold it. Cost deltas on the Kahr are driven by the polygonal rifling of the barrel vs the hexagonal rifling in the shield. Also, 416 Stainless Steel is more expensive than case hardened carbon steel. Also, the Shield uses a lot of MIM parts in the internals and the Kahr PM line does not. I agree completely on the trigger assessment although I do slightly favor the Kahr because of the "smoothness". Another reason why I sold the Shield was because the finish began to flake off near the front sight. Nothing to do with firing the weapon but exposed carbon steel will turn rusty before long; the chromium in stainless steels serves as a rust abatement.
Gary Pope: I have the 9mm M&P Shield and I carry it in a DeSantis Nemesis U4 pocket holster using the short magazine. It is very comfortable and as long as I wear pants with deep pockets, it does not print. The Shield is a great gun and is very easy to shoot accurately and with minimum recoil. And it is a good price (if you can find one).
JEROME OLAS: I love my pm9. That shield looks really nice tho
paintballmagnet: Strange that all of my Kahr mags drop free. I have both pistols, prefer the Kahr for pocket carry but lean toward the Shield for "shootability." Both have been 100% reliable.
Jimmy Morris: Thanks for the informative video. The Shield looks to be a nice gun for the money. I have a P9, that I think might be a little closer to the size of the shield. It is a little big for pocket carry in most pants I wear. If I had a PM9, my LCP might be left behind almost all the time. The LCP is always in my pocket even if I carry something larger, which I do a lot of the time. Now, more often than not, its a Glock 33 in a N82 tactical IWB holster. I guess what I am thinking is, that if I could only have one gun to carry, I could make a lot of choices worse than a PM9.
gotindrachenhart: I've carried my PM9 in my pocket for almost ten years now. I did have an issue with it early on with a tiny crack developing on the frame but they were a new model so I cut them a little slack. They also took care of me very fast and I had it back within a week. The mags will drop free eventually, I think it just takes time to break them in as I've seen other PM9's that would drop their mags out just fine. Mine is still in pretty new shape as I have few rounds through it.
Not sure what you mean about field stripping the Kahr. Mine is pretty simple, even easier than my Series 80 Colt. Only complaint I have is that the slide stop/take down pin can be tough to pop at first. Otherwise, it field strips VERY fast and goes back together VERY fast IMO.
The extractor acts as a loaded chamber indicator. If it is flush with the slide there is no round, if it sits up just slightly there's a round in the chamber. I know it isn't as obvious but it does function and it also serves as a >tactile< indicator.
The trigger is long yes. I'm honestly on the fence about it. It is very smooth and consistent on the break. It is VERY controllable for me. And I find it also is easy for me to hold on target while depressing the trigger. I DO wish it was a bit shorter on travel. But, the way I see it this makes up for a lack of safety. I've come to actually appreciate the trade off.
The pinky thing does annoy me, not going to lie there lol.
But, honestly, the PM9 is really meant IMO, to be a belly gun. Something you pull from your pocket or holster, jam in their belly/ribs and drain the mag. Can it shoot well at 25 yards? Yup! Do you really need that from a sub-compact? Not IMO. Heck, with the poly barrel it can print better groups that I'm capable of producing with it. But that's no fault of the weapon, that's my old body and physics. I have a bit of tennis elbow and when you combine that with a polymer frame all that energy comes right back through my wrist and elbow and, well it hurts. So after a few mags with the Kahr I'm all shaky :D
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