Roberthurz: In your opinion how large a factor is hydrostatic shock on shutting down
the central nervous system in a living target? I have witnessed massive
blood shock in deer and coyotes from fast moving bullets that fragmented
inside the body of the animal. Many of the animals muscle and nervous
system convulsions were very dramatic when they were struck. This leads me
to wonder if these faster lighter bullets could have the same reaction in a
defensive gun battle with a human being. What do you think?
MegaGevehr: @hugo2x Actually, they'll go through walls glass etc just as well as FMJ's.
They are only to prevent ricochets. They will frag out when they hit a hard
surface like asphalt. They were also designed to decrease the risk of
injury in shoot houses when nailing things like steel plate.
Austin Griffin: I personally believe in velocity and this bullet has it for sure. Explosion
on soft tissue impact is great as I will not hit innocent bystanders and
its suppose to keep form through barriers.... I think I'm in love with this
ammo... Those who disagree need to read up on physics
alogusz: @backwoods223 Per DRT's website: "DRT lead-free projectile is a
revolutionary round. The bullet breaks apart on contact with a solid
surface. Our round can be fired by law enforcement officers without any
fear of ricochet or pass through, or fear of injury or death to innocent
bystanders from ricochet or pass through. "
andreleger2001: We had no feed issues with this ammo.
andreleger2001: @Roberthurz I think penetration is important to hit vitals. I also think
there is something to the speed thing. A .357 Mag round KO's fast. Thus, we
are back to the age old argument of slow heavy vs. light fast. The pendulum
is now in the heavy side with penetration being king at the moment. This
being said, there is a reason the .357 Mag has a reputation for being a
fight stopper. I don't think the argument will ever be settled. (FYI I
carry a .357 Mag most of the time)
Blk05titan26: too light of a bullett....115gr is the min.
bigboss686: @12GaugeLosAngeles So is that what all the posers such as yourself are
doing this year, or are you trying to start a new trend all by yourself?
Daniel Casher: They feed great in my Glock 19, of course everything does. They also feel
"soft shooting" especially for a fast cartridge. Also, they are very
Daniel Casher: I think one or two center mass hits would end the confrontation. If you hit
the breastbone, the round will go right through and explode on the other
side. Instant death. Just my opinion. I EDC these in my Glock 19 with
complete confidence. They are also light to carry and soft on the recoil.
darkwriter77 .: So far, the only practical uses I've seen for frangible ammo are
close-range metal plate shooting, splattering fruit, and blowing up small
animals like prairie dogs. But for self-defense ... I dunno. DRT uses a
slightly different design, sort of a compromise between other frangible
bullet designs and a standard JHP, but it neither expands nor penetrates
with outstanding ability or consistency. At least DRT ammo's not insanely
expensive from what I've seen online (cheap enough to test, anyway).
backwoods223: So what are the advantages of frangible vs a bonded hollow point?
Danny Chron: @alogusz I beg to differ. At 10 yards it would penetrate 5 and half inches
of solid wood and go into the tree but on the soft stuff it did better than
Daniel Casher: I have fired these 9mm from my Glock 19 into pressure treated 2x4, drywall,
and wallboard. They go through like a FMJ would. But if they hit a soft
media, they explode and fragment and penetrate in pieces. So, if the bad
guy is hiding behind a wall, you can shoot right through and hit him. If
you hit him first, the bullet will cause big trauma, and not over
penetrate. And you can shoot more than once. The best of both worlds. Bad
ass ammo. One or two hits and lights out. Light carry, soft recoil
hugo2x: @backwoods223 frangible don't penetrate hard objects like walls and glass
like reg hollows
bigboss686: @12GaugeLosAngeles A retarded response from a retarded man, although I
suppose that shouldn't surprise me. Look little fella the point isn't
whether or not 9mm is good(although ballistic evidence clearly demonstrates
it is) the point is that your advice is absurd/ridiculous an your
suggestions idiotic an juvenile Once again, if your hands are shaking It
doesn't matter what you're shooting because you're not going to get hits,
simple as that. BTW been to Thunder Ranch twice troll you=not smart
AdmiralGST: @LosAngelesWeedSmoker Like your name clears you of being a tool, made it
Edubbplate: I just bought some of these. Do they feed well? I know they're made for
semi-auto handguns, but I'm think of my Beretta 92fs particularly.
jmkpns: Hornady XTP's are much better.
Bullittstable: There are two women on the box. Really??? This is right there with Extreme
Shock. Impressive and attractive to people who don't know better. Great
test though. Always informative. Keep them coming.
Roberthurz: Thanks for sharing... I think you are right. These frangible rounds could
be very lethal.
pjicleanair420: arnt these frangibles generally marketed towards home defense and not so
tmitch965: i bet this stuff is nasty on tissue, but if one had to shoot through a
barrier, lets say glass for instance, it probably wouldnt be ideal. a guess
on my part.
smartguy104: Supposedly these offer similar barrier penetration comparable to
traditional hollow points if I am not mistaken in addition to fragmenting
in liquid medians. It would be interesting to fire these into two by fours,
stumps, or drywall to see how deep they would go.
Edubbplate: Thanks. They're just too expensive to "test out" many of them.
andreleger2001: @smartguy104 I think a future test is in order on this one.
Daniel Casher: They'll go through a 2x4 or drywall like cutting soft butter. But when they
hit something soft, they explode and fragment.
scsmia: great vid. thanks alex
jwash3rd: @pjicleanair420 Good point. I think these are designed not to hit somenone
in the next room. The lack of penetration may prove ineffective in
incapacitating a perp who is wired on crank or adrenaline. Important info
to have when purchasing ammo, considering most burglars are drug addicts.
Holy Poseidon: This ammo has been way to hyped up.
backwoods223: @alogusz ah ok. thanks
Derail07: This would be great home defense if you lived in a condo or apartment
complex. You don’t want to kill your neighbors by shooting through the
bigboss686: @12GaugeLosAngeles Yah yah an last week your therapist had to convince you
that you weren't a Green Beret, the week before that it was probably a Navy
seal, after all, you obviously keep the psych ward very busy what with them
having to provide you with therapy, check up on you to make sure you're
taking your meds, (although they seem to have dropped the ball the last few
days) and various other things. Look little fella, it's not my fault you
said something that was the apex of stupidity
bigboss686: @12GaugeLosAngeles Just to mock your silly statements 01, who would be
called mall ninja by his Indian name :D I mean, could you have made a more
poser argument? 9 mm best if your hands are shaking? L.M.A.O If your so
frightened your hands are shaking you won't make hits with a 22, let alone
a center fire of any kind, therefore your "advice" is a complete joke with
a cherry on top of that joke being chest beating about you carrying a 45.
honestly, your statement is borderline retarded
firefox8192: devistator a fragmentation grenade. terminal. a surgeon/coroner will be
picking this stuff out of a perp for days. i don't know where to find this
ammo, but , i want some.
pjicleanair420: @jwash3rd i would think this would be pretty ideal possibly for an air
marshall, or anyone who doesnt want over penetration, and i agree with ya
LosAngelesWeedSmoker: Hey i'm 12GaugeLosAngeles... closed my account, i came off as a prick, ha
ha. Both rounds are excellent. Peace~