Indian Chieftain Vs Victory Cross Country Vs Harley Ultra Rider Review And Comparison




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Mike Bast: I would never buy either of those , I love my 2012 ultra limited. Harley-davidson is the benchmark by which all the rest are measured.

pmh1nic: Excellent and very informative interview. I'm not a touring rider but enjoying hearing about the touring bikes and the touring experience. Thanks!

flyfast56: It's true what they say...Imitation Is the Greatest Form of Flattery. Every manufacturer seems to imitate the Harley and have a Harley look-a-like, but Harley imitates no other design. 

Keith Cox: For the money, the Cross country is a good bike. admittedly, not the best looking (My Chieftain is) but best storage and floorboards. Chieftain riding position is the best, most comfy, and the shifting is the most smooth, and power band is outstanding. I noticed the Cross country that I test rode didn't seem to like speed very much...it got up to speed quickly enough, but had a vibration at 80 that I found annoying. the Street glide...stumpy. not comy at all unless you're 5'9. However, great stereo. Chieftain is the best Bagger for the money.

Bill Johnson: This guy is a complete ASSHAT! Why even put this on from VOG? The Indian Cheiftan is the same style bike as his?? his comments are completely stupid...

1400IntruderVS: Funny how he mentioned the spread on the sitting positions. I have sat on nearly every Harley Davidson model made in the last ten years and the only reason I haven't picked one yet is because their seating positions are fairly compact on their touring models. I am only 5'11'' and I find HD's to be a little cramped, at least every model they have with floor boards. Stranger to me are all these really big people riding these Harley's that I feel are kind of cramped for little 'ole me. By contrast most of the Victory line up seems better designed for those 5'9'' or larger. So it seems Victory are for larger folk and Indian and Harley are now best for smaller folks?

Keith Cox: Oh, BobbyG is an idiot.

Harley Rider: Why are there more Harleys sold?

Dan A: Mechanically I like the Victory! But Why is it so F-ing Ugly??? I'll Tell you why... The tank is too long and the handlebars lay back and angle down towards the rider to low. Motorcycles look better when the bars rise up at the same angle as the front forks period. Just look at the bars on the Victory's. Because the tanks are so long and the rider seat is so far back all Victory's have dumb looking handlebars. The rider position suffers as well. I like my butt to be a little farther forward when sitting on a bike. Bad geometry . 

tibor t: Okay, after finishing the video. What an opinionated jackass! Acts like he's a thoughtful authority on the subject, when in reality what comes out of his mouth is verbal diarrhea.

Steve Awesome: For all the Pro Victory Guys/Anti Harley Guys. Type in Red Square Chapter 110 on the YouTube Search. For Harley's 110th Anniversary, there were Anniversary celebrations all over the world. This chapter of HOG was from Russia, and rode to Italy to celebrate the 110th. There's also a youtube video of one in Mexico and Germany as well. Probably others I'm missing. Harley promoted the events obviously. But Harley owners on Harleys rode to these events to celebrate the brotherhood of the bike. This is the difference between Harley and all others. You will never have this, ever. You have an advantage in the tech as of the moment, but it's going to be another 95 years or so before you have the recognition. It must get old telling people you're Harley look-a-like is a Victory. I suppose you could say Harley sells an image. That's fine. But like, cigarettes, beer, stamps and tampons, they don't really need to advertise. Everybody knows what awesome looks and sounds like. For the guy who seems to think we all trailer our bikes around. No. I make like $50k a year also at the moment. I found a bike I liked, went to my credit union and bought it. I then started the process of customization/modification to suit my needs and personality. I ride it, I clean it, I'm planning on riding it all over the country. No trailer needed. It's the journey, not the destination. Keep the shiny side up, enjoy the ride no matter what you ride.

James Peavy: Y'all do know Indian and victory are made by the same company right. As for copy Harley why was Harley the last company to start using fuel injection

Iowaracefan: Nice Polaris commercial. What it comes down to is this. When you are ready to buy a bike, take the time and test ride many different models and then pick the one that best works for you. Doesn't matter which brand as long as you the buyer is happy. 

CaptPuget: HD didn't make the first -- or second -- V-Twin motorcycle. HD flatters two other manufacturers. Enough with the HDcentrism.

tibor t: One man's opinion, and pretty much a waste of your time.

Jeff Bicht: If they get away from Arlen Ness they would sell better and being they do not have a sub frame to put a sidecar on. There was not a real Indian motor since 1954 till they came out with the new motor in 2013. 

rlunderhill: Bobby G. is who? 

cryin2: now we are whacking the indians. you victory guys just look stupid

Dwf shamrock: Harley Davidson is a nice bike if you want to be like everyone else. Stand on stage, not in the crowd.

taxfree4: Dude, get a secondary mike so the person you are interviewing can pin it on their shirt. I couldn't watch more than 2 minutes of this. That back and forth with the mike is distracting, annoying and impedes the flow of natural conversation since he has to wait till you're done so you can swing it over to him. I thought you were going to whack him in the mouth a couple of times there, just a suggestion.

Michael Wattle: bikes were unique in the 1920's. now the expectations of bikes are all the same in America. Of course they are different around the world. I ride a Vic Vegas 8 ball. anyone want to see it, just look up a suicide clutch for Victory Vegas. Looks like i am the only one in the world that has one. I just got off the subject though...sorry. For this interview, everyone has different ways to evaluate new and old bikes. Yes i think the things he is talking about is very petty!!!!. And i think he has too much money. Bikes are a extension of the owner when riding: therefore making a bike very personal, not wanting what the FACTORY has to give you!! As long as it is American made and there is a good engine in place with a reliable braking system and tran, you are in good shape. For people that are only HD, get another freckin HOBBY! I was not real happy with my bikes styling, but just as i said before a bike is an extention of your body. if you dont like puny arms..,.GUESS what!! You go work out and get bigger arms or take steroids HAHAHA! I chose by bike just like all of you have that are commenting here. Bobby who... he has never been on my bike and never will because it will never be for sale. I will go to the grave with it or take it to It's grave AAAAND DONE Signing out "Wattle"

GETREAL!: This is not an "INDIAN" motorcycle! This is a nonsense bike created by POLARIS with CHINESE INVESTMENT and it is a "RE-MODLED VICTORY" This motorcycle is an insult to the old beautiful Indian with it is long Heritage. It is very sad to see this happened to the REAL INDIAN bike.

Sideways Miller: I'm a HOG member only for the discounts and road side service, not the "club" but VOG really is a thoughtless, cheap rip-off. I am a die hard Harley fan, but if I had the money I'd have one of every brand of motorcycle in my garage, so with me its not a "Harley-or-nothing" thing. Victory makes a nice bike, while I was at the Laughlin rally I had a chance to demo ride a couple of new Victorys and with all honesty they felt like a Kawasaki. Good smooth power, but no soul or character. Nothing about the bike excited me. The Victory is what it is, a pretty metric cruiser with an American stamp on it. As for the new Indian bikes, I'd buy one on their looks alone. I like the classic lines and the old school styling of the bike, but I honestly have no idea how it rides, I haven't been lucky enough to sit on one. If you're just a Weekend Warrior any bike will do, if you truly ride you have to pick the bike that best suits you, whatever the brand name is. I'm just glad we have choices. (By the way, nice fanny-pack BobbyG.)

steve k: Great POLARIS commertial

lensman8: That was a stupid comment that was made starting at 17:20, saying so many options to change the look of the HD street glide but not Indian without it still looking like an Indian !!! WTF...how is that any different???? When you change to custom looks on a Harley, it aint what Harley had created. It YOUR STYLE NOT HARLEYS. SO..dont be stupid and say changing an Indians cosmetics doesn't make it Indian anymore...NOTHING LOOKS LIKE AN INDIAN IN IT'S ENGINE OR FENDERS...EVER!!! THINK...before putting mouth in gear...duh!!

Aknoctum: It's a real shame that indian motorcycles was acquired by Polaris, these new indian only thing they seem is a version of the indian created by polaris, I thought acquire indian this year, but seeing these best new indian not do it, they lost the vintage touch, and lost its American style, is a shame that this should happen to Indian ... a shame ..

S Sat: "VOG" , jesus guys..., if you make up an "owners group", at least don't call it anything remotely similar to the legendary HOG... And the Victory is better than the new Indian?? OK, it comes from the same manufacturer, but apart from that, if you saw a Victory bike on the road, you could very well think that it is a Jap crap - touring bike..., an Indian - NEVER! C'mon. Who is this "Bobby-G" (biker), commenting on bikes anyway, (his main issue is the colour of the bikes)..., WTF? :) 

matrox: The Indians and Harleys I like. The Victory just look like a Japanese bike and the engine is ugly.

Tony Edwards: What BobbyG said about the Indians is sort of true look at the Harley Heritage... a bike which I've owned there is so little you can do to the bike until you don't have a Heritage any longer

Keanon Gilliam: Ted W. Harley had a recall on only the 2014 touring models except the Road King (Road King still has cable clutch) for it's new hydraulic clutch. My understanding it was an easy fix at the dealerships even though they had a do not ride warning. To Harley's credit (my friend's Electra Glide Ultra) dealers picked up the bikes from the owners home, fixed at dealership and delivered bikes back to owners' homes. When I got my Street Glide a month later the repair were already done.

bigbadbobdunn: You're reviewing an Indian, but don't have one?

Keanon Gilliam: I like the new Indians but to me they're a bit "overly classic". By that I mean that the style can only be appreciated by an older person or a person who likes the retro styling. You can buy a Softail Deluxe or a Heritage Softail and it's retro styling won't seem over the top. I bought the 2014 Street Glide instead of the Chieftain. Interesting enough, check out the video test review Chieftain vs Street Glide on Motorcycle.com

robin yates: to a European, these US bikes look very old fashioned unlike the 2014 cars which are good looking.

matrox: He called the Victory a girls bike compared to the Indian. I'm surprised VOG didn't cut it out.

sqweezel: I wish I could afford any of these beauties. But for me it's all about comfort and options. Once I find a bike that FEELS right, I can worry about making it LOOK right for my own tastes. For tech heads, check out the Moto Guzzi California cruiser.

Roy Rodriguez: so he says he owned a h.d. and he's cut off right away ... Honda with 68.000 miles ,cut off , hated one model vick ..cut off ..

Denis Marier: You have to understand, VOG stands for Victory Owners Group... On the other hand, ever seen other bike make spokespersons advertizing Vics ? Or just any competition for that matter... lol

Forrest Hicks: I was going to buy a 2013 Road Glide Custom and decided to give Victory a chance with there test ride promotion. I am not a trend follower which is why I liked the Cross Country - it's NOT another Street Glide. They are everywhere and I don't care for being like everyone else. Here's a simple breakdown of why I bought the XC. Cost for Stage 1: Victory=$400/HD=$2,000, rear seat for wife's comfort:Victory=Stock (and she love's it)/HD=$400, Floorboards/ergonomics:Victory=Lazyboy/HD=Barstool

Duane Mowery: Did i get this strait? He never rode the chieftain but he has these opinions?

Steve Awesome: Again, much thanks to Polaris. The slight competition for customers added by Indian along with Victory, will really push Harley to change up their powerplant in the next 5-10 years. I can see a sub 2 liter Revolution based water cooled engine pretty much across the board of the heavy's. Dyna may keep the 103 and Sportster will stick with 1203. That engine will pretty much destroy and dominate for years to come all while looking great.

TheHuester44: BobbyG is giving a very unbiased and honest review of the brands he's ridden . Saying that he canceled his order on the Indian Chieftan is being honest and that he would choose a Harley Street Glide over the Indian says something. Everyone can choose what they like the point is to enjoy your ride.

Bonniemish: I don't ride BUT I will...............I love the retro Indian look. Keep your cookie cut looking bikes that you want to modify. The Indian doesn't need to modify its look! Sweet classic bike!

Steve Awesome: Ok, I'm going to do this in two parts. The first part is where I say I like all motorcycles. I think Victory makes a nice product. I like the shape of the fairing on the Cross Country. I think the engine technology is pretty cool. Probably a step a head of the Harley. The price is right as well. However, Harley builds there engines and the bikes a certain way, because that's what the customers demand. After introducing the V-rod, it was obvious, the average Harley customer was ok with change.

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Steve Awesome: How come a friend of mine who has in his garage, a MotoGuzzi with a side car, an Anniversary Edition GSXR, and a Limited edition Victory Cross Country can't stop staring at my Softail and telling me what a nice bike it is and how lucky I am to have it? Just remember, Harley sets the trends, everyone else follows them. In the event you feel I'm wrong ask yourself this. Why does everyone have a Street Glide clone currently? No one ever tripped over a Sportster to ask anyone about a Honda.

David m: Polairs builds some way ugly bikes""

GrumpyBlack: I appreciate the info/perspective as well...thanks

ragtopdodge: Victory Street Glide? WTF is that?

guysmiley: He went from a 2012 victory to a 2008 harley?

byron efird: This guy is out there... We have witnessed Harleey and Victory riders get off the new Indians and the response is tremendous...people are tradind for the new Indians left and right and it is certainly an upgrade from their existing bike!!!!!
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Indian Chieftain vs Victory Cross Country vs Harley Ultra Rider Review and Comparison 3.6 out of 5

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